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I’ll bet that everyone who knew him has a favorite Alan Dundes story. Here’s a couple of mine. To understand both, you have to know that Dundes was larger than life in many ways, including physically. I somehow don’t want to apply the adjective “fat” to him, although, yes, he was. Some called him “a tank,” others, “a rhino.” He was so formal and so formidable that I resort to an old-fashioned word, “portly.”
I only ever saw him in a charcoal gray suit, white shirt, and dark tie. And he knew everything about his field. Students would line up in chairs along the back of his office wall. They would approach, timidly, one by one. They would burble about their family’s traditional Persian Nawruz celebration, or a Yiddish joke, or a Peruvian children’s game, that is, material that they had stored in their mind’s attic among their most intimate and cherished memories, and that they thought belonged to them alone, and Dundes would immediately provide the student with numerous citations to scholarly articles addressing the very obscure factoid they thought they’d never fully understand. After their encounter with Dundes, they walked out of his office into an expanded world, a world of meaning and wonder in which they were playing a vital part every time they told that half-remembered joke, every time they played that childhood game. You aren’t alone, the scholarship Dundes introduced students to said. There are others who told the same joke, played the same games. There is a meaning to all this; there is a story; it is dense and rich and everlasting.
So, yes, Dundes was big. And he was funny as hell. Hundreds of students registered for his classes, which were held in an auditorium. He was up there on stage making us laugh, and then inviting us to eye-opening, even outrageous interpretations of every day events. He’d weave in something as ordinary as a traffic sign, cite some Freud, tell a joke, and before you knew it your mind was pinging around like an explorer’s finger on a globe and you had the sense that life is a wonderful mystery and this guy possessed many of the clues.
One day he introduced a particularly complex lecture. You had to hang on every word to grok the unfolding revelation. When he finished, many of us thought we were in the presence of the smartest guy on a campus with many Nobel Laureates.
At that moment, a young blonde asked a stupid question. Her question suggested to us that she hadn’t really been listening to the lecture, and that she didn’t care that she was revealing that she hadn’t been listening to the lecture. Her question insulted, and deflated, Dundes. Impatient, aware of his own worth Dundes sniffed, “That was a stupid question.”
We all gasped. A minute before we had been surfing with him a wave of joyful discovery. Her cluelessness, and his dismissal, crashed us onto a jetty’s boulders.
Dundes, dark and massive, paced a few steps; the auditorium was so hushed we could hear the stage floorboards creak beneath him. Dundes wasn’t just arrogant. He was also charming. His bonhomie returned. He stopped and turned to the young lady. “I’m sorry,” he said to her, in his most tender, grandfatherly aural caress. “I shouldn’t have said that. There’s no such thing as a stupid question.”
We exhaled.
Dundes paced to the edge of the stage. He swung his bulk around dramatically and shouted, “But that came pretty damn close!”
We exploded in laughter.
One of the regrets of my life is that I found it hard to interact with Dundes, and he found it hard to interact with me. I’m blue collar. I swept floors and swabbed toilets before and after his lectures to work my way through Berkeley grad school. His father was a lawyer; mine, a coal miner. He went to Yale, I, as he reminded me with typical bluntness, got my BA at an “undistinguished state school.” Dundes told a dumb Polak joke in class. I went to his office and we yelled at each other. I operated on the assumption that he hated me; it was only after I finished that I learned from someone else that he had “pulled strings he didn’t know existed” to get me funding. Ironically, we shared a common ancestral homeland: Poland.
My second story took place more than a decade later, in 2005. I had my PhD, had published work that I assessed was as good as the standard Dundes’ superb oeuvre had set for me, and, given that we were now thousands of miles apart and communicating via email, I found it easier to talk to him. I thought that maybe, just maybe, I might someday ask permission to address him by his first name. I sent him an email asking for prayer for my academic career. He responded in an email that enveloped me in a completely new atmosphere. I no longer felt that I was one of a handful of students lining the back of his office wall, awaiting my brief encounter with the great man. He spoke to me as if I were his equal, even his intimate. He spoke about faith. I was overwhelmed. Suddenly I had to relearn how to interact with him. I devoted quiet time to contemplating how to respond to this new Prof. Dundes. And then a friend phoned me and said that he thought that the New York Times obituary for Alan Dundes had been too short. Dundes had collapsed and died of a heart attack while teaching a class he had once taught me, and so many others. To the last, I never got to say all of what I wanted to say to him, in the way that I yearned to say it.
Alan Dundes said things that people didn’t want him to say. His controversial book, Life is Like a Chicken Coop Ladder: A Study of German National Character through Folklore argued for a strain of anal erotic obsession in German national character. His even more controversial article, “Into the Endzone for a Touchdown: A Psychoanalytic Consideration of American Football” cited homoerotic aspects in the sport. I think both these works are brilliant. “The Hero Pattern in the Life of Jesus,” in which Dundes argues that Jesus never existed, and his image, crucified between two thieves, is nothing more than a reference to a penis and two testicles, is bizarre and just plain wrong.
No doubt Dundes’ riskiest work is Fables of the Ancients? Folklore in the Qur’an published in 2003 by Rowman & Littlefield. In this 94-page booklet, Dundes points out that the Qur’an gives every indication of being an orally transmitted work that recycles pre-existing folklore. This is not a new or, in scholarly circles, controversial assertion. Even so, thinkers and authors have been killed for stating basic facts about Islam. One thinks of Hitoshi Igarashi, the murdered Japanese translator of Salman Rushdie’s book The Satanic Verses; and also Ettore Capriolo, the Italian translator, and Salman Rushdie himself, who both survived stabbings; the Charlie Hebdo mass shooting; the murder of Theo van Gogh, and too many other Islam-mandated murders to list here. Given the risk involved, Dundes treads carefully.
The Qur’an itself states more than once that its first hearers identified it as, as the book’s title quotes, nothing but recycled “fables of the ancients,” that is, material that the audience has heard before in oral circulation or encountered in the Old and New Testaments. And Islamic tradition insists that Muhammad, who allegedly received the Qur’an in a series of revelations from the angel Jibril (from the Biblical Gabriel), was illiterate. Unable to read or write, Muhammad heard the Qur’an and then repeated what he heard to his followers, who, after his death, did their admittedly flawed and incomplete best to gather their memories together into a written document. Sam Shamoun addresses Muslim admissions of this “Incomplete and Imperfect Qur’an” here.
Yes, there is widespread acknowledgment of the Qur’an’s oral nature and its recycling of previously disseminated material. But a scholar applying to the Qur’an the same scholarly tools for analyzing texts that scholars apply to other documents? Muslims interpret this as a call to war. To understand why even many Muslims with PhDs and working in Western institutions reject analysis of the Qur’an, and indeed any study of the question of the historicity of Muhammad or examinations of the truth value of Islam’s history of itself, we must review why the Qur’an is not comparable to other world scriptures.
The Qur’an is sometimes referred to as “Islam’s Bible.” These comparisons mislead. At least since the work of French Professor of Medicine Jean Astruc (1684-1766), Christians have subjected the Bible to accepted academic methods for examining any text, secular or sacred. Rigorous examination of the Bible is ongoing, on college campuses, in popular bestsellers, and in YouTube videos produced by exegetical entrepreneurs like Michael Jones in his Inspiring Philosophy channel.
When scholars like Israel Finkelstein and Bart Ehrman argue against the reliability of the Bible, they are not stabbed to death by self-appointed avengers; they are refuted in articles, books, and in live debates. Biblical maximalists like Kenneth Kitchen stand up to the plate and argue from archaeology and other evidence that the Bible agrees with known history. Archaeologist Merrill Unger says of Luke, who wrote about a third of the New Testament, “The Acts of the Apostles is now generally agreed in scholarly circles to be the work of Luke, to belong to the first century and to involve the labors of a careful historian who was substantially accurate.” See more about Luke’s astounding accuracy here.
Comparable academic analysis of the Qur’an has never taken place in a Muslim-dominated environment, and given the Islamic dogma detailed below, it’s clear that, as long as humans continue to submit to Islam’s totalitarian demands, such analysis of the text that regiments approximately two billion followers’ everyday lives can never take place in a Muslim-dominated environment. Beyond Islam’s reach, Robert Spencer, Jay Smith, Tom Holland and others have popularized the many problems with Islam’s origin story. Islam’s claims about the key site of Mecca, for just one example, are just not plausible.
Witness author Tom Holland’s interview with Seyyed Hossein Nasr in Holland’s controversial 2012 documentary, Islam, the Untold Story. Holland’s documentary was controversial because it argues that historical facts do not agree with canonical Muslim accounts of the birth of Islam. Holland applies scholarly historiographic tools to historical evidence like surviving chronicles written during the Arab Conquest, coins minted by early Arab conquerors, and geography. Holland decides that historical reality seems to indicate that, rather than Islam creating the Arab Conquest, the Arab Conquest cobbled together Islam as a charter justifying that conquest and unifying the new empire. Holland’s application of scholarly rigor to Islam was unacceptable to Muslims. Within a week of one TV broadcast of Islam, the Untold Story, 1,200 complaints poured in. Channel 4, while “extremely proud” of the film, canceled a screening because of death threats. Holland received anonymous messages including, “You might be a target in the streets. You may recruit some bodyguards, for your own safety.”
Seyyed Hossein Nasr is “University Professor” – a prestigious title – of Islamic studies at George Washington University. Prof. Nasr is also the eponym of the Seyyed Hossein Nasr Foundation. The Foundation’s goal is “manifesting perennial teachings as contained in the Quran.”
George Washington University “was chartered in 1821 as Washington, D.C.’s first university by the United States Congress, GW is one of six universities in the United States with a congressional charter … Notable alumni, faculty, and affiliates include 16 foreign heads of state or government, 28 United States senators, 27 United States governors, 18 U.S. Cabinet members, and five Nobel laureates.” George Washington University has received tens of millions of dollars in overseas funding, including from China, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait. It is among the top fifteen recipients of funding from Arab sources, and it has received the highest number of contracts.
In Islam, the Untold Story, Holland asked Prof. Nasr if someone who was not a devout Muslim could produce a valuable history of the origins of Islam. “No,” Nasr replied. The West emphasizes reason, Nasr says. Reason, he argues, will not result in a product that is “satisfying.” Once the world is “reduced” to the “mechanical” “all other levels of reality lose their status as being real and they’re relegated to the realm of superstition. What is not seen is considered not to exist.” Nasr also associates any Westerner studying Islam with bigoted and oppressive imperialists. Prof. Nasr, who holds a prestigious title at an influential university, demonstrates why applying the same academic microscope to Islam that is applied to any other belief system is a non-starter in a Muslim-dominated environment. In respect to their treatment by scholars, the Bible and the Qur’an are not comparable.
The Qur’an and the Bible differ in fundamental textual criteria. The number of authors of the Bible is estimated to be about forty. These authors are all assumed to have been Jewish, with the possible, but not certain, exception of Luke. The Qur’an is said to be the product of one man, Muhammad, although the historicity of that attribution is debated. Muhammad was not Jewish, but an Arab. He was not one of the people the Bible says would produce universal blessing and salvation; see Genesis 12:3, John 4:22, and, on the historical role of Muhammad’s putative ancestors, see Genesis 16:11-12.
Some say that the Bible was written over the course of 1,500 years; others say only over about half that. In any case, the Bible was written over the course of at least hundreds of years. The Qur’an is said to have been revealed to Muhammad over the course of twenty-three years. The Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, which is closely related to Hebrew, and Koine Greek, a lingua franca spoken by Jews and others after the conquests of Alexander the Great. The Qur’an is in Arabic, and considered authentic only in Arabic.
There are several different genres in the Bible. Each genre is received differently by its audience, as is the case today. One does not read an article in The New York Times the same way one reads the inscription in a humorous Hallmark card; one does not read a fairy tale the same way one reads a doctor’s prescription. The Bible’s genres include history, law, poetry, biography, prophecy, proverbs, parables, eschatology, letters, and novella. The Qur’an strikes this reader as one, extended, unhinged rant.
The Qur’an is roughly one tenth the size of the Bible. Given its many repetitions, as Don Richardson points out in his book Secrets of the Koran, “If every statement or story that is repeated in the Koran was given only once, the entire Koran would slim down to approximately 40 percent of its published length.” That would produce a document four percent of the Bible’s length.
The Qur’an’s themes are not comparable to themes in the Bible. Allah is very much not a father. Love is very much not the book’s theme. There is no Good Samaritan story informing Muslims that even non-Muslims are their neighbors and worthy of equal treatment. Rather, the Qur’an informs Muslims that they are the best of created beings, and non-Muslims are the worst of all creatures.
The Qur’an harps on hell and describes graphic, sadistic punishments in a way that the Bible never does. Richardson calculates that “There is one threat of hell in every 7.9 verses.” The word “hell” is mentioned only thirty-one times in the entire Old Testament; that is, by Richardson’s count, once in every 774 verses. In the New Testament, “perdition” and “fire” – as in the fire of hell – are mentioned once in every 120 verses. The Qur’an’s descriptions of hell are detailed in a way that the Bible’s never are. Allah, for example, will burn the skin off of human faces, and then replace that skin with new skin so he can burn it off again. The Qur’an repeats a similar taunt over and over. “You shall surely taste the painful punishment,” “Taste the chastisement of shame,” “taste the woe of famine and fear,” “taste the vehement torment,” “taste the torment of the flame,” “taste the violence,” “taste the torment of the burning,” and “taste the ill consequences.” Allah talks like a cackling Bond villain.
Richardson counts 109 jihad verses. The Answering Islam website counts 164 jihad verses, and includes a chart that quotes them. Those who refuse jihad are assured of hell. Those Muslims who refuse to carry out jihad will surely “taste the torment.” Those who die in jihad are issued heavenly virgins of both sexes.
The Qur’an similarly details exactly what one can expect of heaven. The Bible never does so. The Biblical Paul may have had a glimpse of heaven himself, or he knows someone who was allowed such a glimpse. Paul speaks in hushed tones of the experience, refusing to provide any details. Paul, or some other witness, “was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.” In contrast, the Qur’an promises a heaven where men can have sex with perpetually virgin women and boys while reclining on luxurious couches under trees heavy with fruit. Believers sit beside flowing rivers; some rivers flow with water, others, with milk, wine, and honey. Believers bedeck themselves with precious stones, and drink all the wine they can swallow.
The opening lines of the Qur’an are known as Al-Fatihah, or The Opening. Muslims are required to repeat Al-Fatihah seventeen times a day. Al-Fatihah curses Christians as having gone astray, and Jews as earning Allah’s wrath.
The Qur’an states that “The unbelievers among the people of the Book, and among the Polytheists, shall go into the fire of Gehenna to abide therein for aye. Of all creatures are they the worst! But they who believe and do the things that are right – these of all creatures are the best!” Jews are the worst enemies of Muslims, according to 5:82. According to Dr. Bill Warner, “Much of the Islamic doctrinal texts relate to the Kafir [non-Muslims]. The majority (64%) of the Koran refers to them, and nearly all of the Sira (81%) is about Mohammed’s struggle with the Kafir. 37% of the Hadith of Bukhari concerns them. Overall, the Trilogy devotes 51% of its content to the Kafir.” Warner compares canonical Muslim scripture with Mein Kampf and discovers that there is more antisemitic material in the former. He cites thirteen Qur’an verses that expressly tell Muslims not to befriend Christians or Jews: 9:23, 3:28, 3:118, 4:89, 4:138, 4:144, 60:1, 60:13, 5:57, 5:78, 58:14, 5:55, 5:51. And of course the Qur’an reports that Allah turned Jews into apes and pigs.
The Qur’an’s devotion of so much verbiage to inculcating hatred against non-Muslims is unique in world scriptures. One does not find comparable material in any of the world’s major religious texts. The Bible condemns behaviors of Pagans, for example child sacrifice, insincere prayer, and idol worship. But the Bible is also remarkable in its emphasis on common humanity. See, for example, Jeffrey K. Salkin’s Righteous Gentiles in the Hebrew Bible: Ancient Role Models for Sacred Relationships. Of course the New Testament’s Good Samaritan story advanced a revolutionary, non-tribal ethic. Jesus practices a non-tribal ethic in his encounters with a Roman centurion and in his longest recorded conversation, with a Samaritan woman. There is nothing to compare in the Qur’an.
The Qur’an is also different from the other big five world religion’s scriptures in terms of its style. The Qur’an is not a chronological text that tells a coherent story from start to finish. Sentences appear without any apparent relation to each other. The pronouns “you,” “he,” “we,” “they,” and “I” are used and the reader is not sure to whom these pronouns refer. A pronoun may refer to one person in one sentence and in the subsequent sentence the same pronoun may refer to someone else. Words have unclear meaning. “Gerd Puin is an Islamist, German scholar. He says that fully 20% of the Qur’an is simply unintelligible. The reason it cannot be translated is because we don’t even know what it means.” For an example of such content, see the muqatta ‘at, or mysterious letters. Letters from the Arabic alphabet appear in the Qur’an; there is no agreement as to what they refer to. And then there are verses like 74:30, “Above it are nineteen,” that puzzle readers.
One scholar, the pseudonymous Christoph Luxenberg, argues in his book The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Koran that the Qur’an’s original sources were Christian liturgical material in the Syriac language; poor translation into Arabic is responsible for the Qur’an’s incoherent words and passages, Luxenberg argues. Note that because of his work, Luxenberg, fearing death from Muslims, has chosen to remain anonymous.
Sometimes the Qur’an’s lack of clarity is strategic. The Qur’an purposely disguises some of its uglier passages in coded language. The Qur’an tells its male readers that they can have sex with woman and girls captured in war, but it does not use frank language to do so. Rather, it refers to these women and girls as objects which the man “possesses” with his “right hand.”
That the Qur’an is unclear is acknowledged by Islam itself. Muslims do not take their faith directly from the Qur’an. Rather, they rely on the hadith, the sayings of Muhammad, and on commentary. The Bible, while open to varying interpretations, is clear enough that many Christians adopt “sola scriptura,” or reliance on the Bible alone, for their understanding of their faith.
The Qur’an is different than the Bible, the Vedas, the Tao Te Ching, Raven or Coyote Tales from North America, the Popol Vuh from Central America, the works of Ovid or Homer, in that Muslims will kill you if you burn a Qur’an, but no one who reveres any of the other above-mentioned texts will even think of hurting you for burning one of those texts. Physical copies of the Qur’an are treated as if they were religious idols. Muslims are advised to perform wudhu, that is ritualized ablutions, before so much as touching a Qur’an. Some wear gloves. Some place the Qur’an on elaborate carved and painted stands. That’s because, though Islam advertises itself as the world’s only purely monotheistic religion, in Islam the Qur’an assumes the status of a god. It is “uncreated,” that is it is as eternal as Allah. To even suggest that anyone, at any time, “created” the Qur’an is a capital offense. Islam speaks of the Qur’an as a “divine, conscious agent.” Sam Shamoun writes, “one renowned Muslim jurist named Qadi ‘Iyad, citing the work of Malik, wrote that: He said about someone who said that the Qur’an is created, ‘He is an unbeliever, so kill him.’ He said in the version of Ibn Nafi’, ‘He should be flogged and painfully beaten and imprisoned until he repents.’ In the version of Bishr ibn Bakr at-Tinnisi we find, ‘He is killed and his repentance is not accepted.’ (Qadi ‘Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad), translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K. 1991; third reprint, paperback], p. 419)”
Given that the Qur’an is a divinity in all but name, it is perfect. Not one letter, not one punctuation mark of the Qur’an can be questioned. The Qur’an, given its perfection, can never be translated. The Qur’an is only the Qur’an in Arabic, no other language. There are hafizes, that is people who have memorized the entire Qur’an, who have no idea what it means. Like 80% of Muslims in the world today, they don’t speak Arabic. Given its divine perfection, Muslims say that the Qur’an they have today is the exact same Qur’an first revealed to Muhammad. All Qur’ans have exactly the same text. This is a point of pride for Muslims, who scoff at variations in texts and translations of the Bible, and the ways that the Bible is debated by believers.
In fact, though, there has been no perfect preservation of the Qur’an. The Qur’an has changed over time and various geographic regions have various Qur’ans. Some Muslims, like the highly placed and influential Yasir Qadhi, do acknowledge that Muslim leaders have not been telling their followers the truth about the unchanging Qur’an. Qadhi, though, recommends that this information not be communicated to average Muslims, because it might cause them to lose faith.
In February, 2024, YouTube counter-jihadis Ridvan Aydemir and David Wood traveled to Israel. YouTuber Brandon Estes, a.k.a. “The Muslim Cowboy,” posted verbal abuse directed at them. In response, David Wood photographed his foot on a Qur’an; Aydemir posted that image. Shortly thereafter, Israeli authorities approached Aydemir and informed him that the image is illegal, that he had to remove it, and if anything like that happened again there would be more trouble. In December, 2023, Denmark’s parliament passed a law making it illegal to burn a Qur’an. In June, 2023, US officials condemned the burning of a Qur’an in Sweden. Christians and Jews emphasize respect for the Qur’an.
In contrast, as a matter of course, Muslims disrespect the Bible every day. Contemporary Islamic dogma insists that Christians and Jews, out of perversity and defiance of God, “corrupted” scripture, and the contemporary Bible is the result of this wicked “corruption.” Muslims insist this for power politics reasons. The Qur’an asserts the reliability of the Old Testament, or Tawrat, and the New Testament, or Injil. In Qur’an 5:44, Allah says he revealed the Tawrat in which was guidance and light; in 5:46 he says he revealed the Injil, full of guidance and light. The problem is that the Bible does not confirm the validity of the Qur’an. To address this conflict, Muslim leaders insist that wicked Christians and Jews corrupted the Bible in order to subvert the will of Allah. There is no evidence, though, of that corruption. For more on this, see David Wood’s “Islamic Dilemma” YouTube video. In many Muslim countries, Muslims cannot read the Bible; doing so may result in imprisonment, torture, and death. Citizens are free to read the Qur’an in Christian-majority countries and Israel. Compare Muslims’ contempt for the Bible and its believers with Christians’ approach to the Old Testament. Christians accept the Old Testament in its entirety.
There’s one more way that the Bible and the Qur’an are not comparable. The Bible has had massive impact on culture around the world. Even non-Christian, non-Western cultures toss around material first found in the Bible. Overseas newspapers from mostly Hindu and Muslim India, Buddhist Thailand, and Communist China, use phrases like “Turn the other cheek,” “ten commandments,” and “Good Samaritan.” Biblical characters like Adam and Eve, Moses, Jesus, and Mary are widely known. Quotes from the Qur’an do not occupy a similar place in the human cultural landscape. Indeed, perhaps the most famous quote in the Qur’an, “Whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity,” was cribbed from the Talmud.
One can appreciate Dundes’ courage when undertaking even merely a folkloric analysis of the Qur’an. In so doing, he turned first to Milman Parry and Albert Lord. Scholars in literate cultures had long wondered, “Who was Homer?” and “How do illiterate people remember lengthy works?” American classicist Milman Parry set out to answer that question in 1933. He traveled to less literate regions of Yugoslavia where guslars, or singers of tales, recounted lengthy epics in live performances. Parry determined that performers did not repeat texts identically. Rather, they conveyed the general idea of the story, and used formulae as aids. These formulae fit slots in the story in terms of meter, meaning, and rhyme. Parry argued that Homer may or may not have ever existed. The Iliad and The Odyssey were not the products of one man. They were communal property, told and retold by many bards for many years before being set down in writing. Parry became the “Darwin of Homeric studies.” He died at age 33, shot to death with his own gun, possibly, accidentally or on purpose by his own hand, and possibly by his wife, who suspected him of infidelity. Parry’s student and assistant, Albert Lord, published, in 1960, with Harvard University Press, The Singer of Tales, a book presenting the Parry-Lord oral-formulaic theory of oral composition.
Dundes applies the oral-formulaic theory to the Qur’an. Dundes’ list of Qur’an formulae is overwhelming and, for the reader, exhausting. “What your right hand possesses” is a formula used repeatedly to refer to slaves. “Who is more wicked than he who invents a lie against Allah or denies His revelations?” is repeated ten times. Formulae attesting to the attributes of Allah are repeated dozens of times. “Allah is severe in retribution,” “Allah is swift in reckoning,” “Allah, if he pleases, can remove you and replace you with others in your stead,” “Allah knows best,” and variations of “Allah sees everything you do” are repeated multiple times. “Children of Israel” is repeated thirty-nine times. This formula is remarkable given that modern day Muslims and their supporters insist that Jews have no connection to Israel.
The Qur’an repeatedly tells Muslims to “enjoin good and forbid evil.” Thus every Muslim has been deputized to carry out what he believes to be Allah’s will; this provides justification for the kind of lone wolves who murdered Theo van Gogh and others. In contrast, unbelievers “enjoin evil and forbid good.” Sinners might die at any time. In one formula, “in the morning they were found dead, face down, in their homes.” In other formula, “Humiliating punishment awaits the unbelievers,” and, “Neither their wealth nor their children will help them in the least against Allah. They shall be fuel for the fire.” Unbelievers will be punished with “chains round their necks.” Dundes comments on how formulae can be expressed in a variety of ways, sometimes as a statement, sometimes as a question. The chains idea can also be expressed as “they will be bound with chains.” Sometimes one person speaks a formula, “Acquit us of our evil deeds” and sometimes another speaker voices the same idea. “I will acquit you of your evil deeds,” or “He will acquit them of their evil deeds,” or “Allah will acquit him of his evil deeds.” Muslims in heaven are variously described. “They shall be decked with bracelets of gold, and arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade” (18:31); “They shall be decked with bracelets of gold and of pearls, and arrayed in garments of silk” (22:23); “They shall be decked with bracelets of gold and pearls, and arrayed in robes of silk” (35:33); and “They shall be arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade, and adorned with bracelets of silver” (76:21).
“Whole verses,” Dundes writes, “consist of little else than formulas.” For example, “In surah 39, the seventh verse includes: ‘No soul shall bear another’s burden. To your Lord shall you return and He will declare to you what you have done. He knows your innermost thoughts.” Every sentence there is a formula that appears over and over in the Qur’an. Another example, “The fourth verse of surah 57. ‘To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. To Allah shall all things return. He causes the night to pass into the day and causes the day to pass into the night. He has knowledge of the innermost thoughts of men.'” Again, every sentence here is a formula that is repeated over and over. “We find throughout the Qur’an formula piled upon formula in surah after surah.”
Dundes, as was his wont, proves his point beyond doubt with page after page of formulae repeated over and over. “If one were to subtract all the oral formulas from the Qur’an, one would have an overall text reduced by as much as one-third of its present length, if not more.” Dundes is just talking about formulae here, not whole narratives. The Qur’an repeats narratives multiple times as well, alluding to the Exodus story so frequently that, by one count, Moses is mentioned 155 times.
Can we conclude anything about the Qur’an’s formulae? Yes, according to Dundes. “The simple principle would be that the more times a formula appears, the more significant the theme articulated in the formula should be regarded. Hence the diverse powers of Allah, the sharp division between believers and unbelievers, the dramatic difference between the joys of heaven and the horrors of hell, the fearsome nature of the Day of Judgment softened by the assurance of the promise of Resurrection, are all featured in numerous formulas.”
After applying oral-formulaic theory to the Qur’an, Dundes moves on to the presence of folktales in the Qur’an. Dundes refers to tale types. Finnish folkorist Antti Aarne and American folklorist Stith Thompson, in the twentieth century, worked to systematize the world’s folktales. Versions of Cinderella were told in China hundreds of years before versions appeared in Europe. How to organize all this material? Through the Stith-Thompson Tale Type index, that assigns numbers to similar tales. Cinderella, in this index, is 510A.
In the Qur’an, there is a version of tale type 766, a.k.a. “The Seven Sleepers.” This story of Christians seeking refuge in a cave to avoid religious persecution is centuries older than the Qur’an. In early Christian versions and also in the Qur’an, the sleepers are accompanied by their dog, who sleeps with them. Dundes astutely notes that given Islam’s hostility to dogs, it is likely that this detail reveals that the author had heard this story originally from Christians.
A second tale type appearing in the Qur’an is 759, “God’s Justice Vindicated,” or “The Angel and the Hermit.” In Qur’an 18:65-82, a servant guides Moses on a trip. This servant performs what appear to be inexplicable and unjust acts. Later, he justifies these acts to Moses. For example, he kills a child. He explains to Moses why he did this. “His parents both are true believers, and we feared lest he should plague them with wickedness and unbelief. It was our wish that their Lord should grant them another in his place, a son more righteous and more filial.” Dundes cites variations of this tale type in various cultures. He acknowledges that in the case of this particular tale, he cannot say which version came first, the one in the Qur’an, or the others he cites.
Dundes does not mention other previously existing folk material in the Qur’an, including the story of child Jesus making clay birds fly, a motif which appears in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. The Infancy Gospel of Thomas is first mentioned circa 180 AD, over four hundred years before the Qur’an emerged.
In Qur’an 27:16-19, Solomon announces that he can understand the language of birds. Ants converse in his presence, and, understanding their speech, an amused Solomon laughs. Dundes identifies this as tale type 670, The Animal Languages. Dundes mentions a Buddhist version from the third century, again, predating the Qur’an by hundreds of years. Another version, also from the Indian subcontinent and also predating the Qur’an, involves a king who understands ants, and who laughs when overhearing their talk. In several other versions of this tale type, the person who understands animal languages laughs when overhearing, and understanding, a comment by a creature. The Qur’an version includes laughter. That laughter, consistent with previous versions of the tale from other cultures, but “one of the relatively rare occurrences of humor in the Qur’an,” is like the dog in the sleepers story. The laughter, like the dog, is out of place in the Qur’an, but true to the original folkloric item. These clues suggest that whoever compiled the Qur’an acquired these tales through folklorically normal oral routes of transmission of folkloric material from one hearer and teller to another.
Dundes concludes that “Allah or the archangel Gabriel was seemingly well versed in the techniques of folkloristic oral transmission.” Dundes quotes the above-mentioned Seyyed Hossein Nasr. As previously mentioned, in the Holland documentary, Nasr championed Islam’s superiority as a source of superior ways of knowing. Nasr repeats that theme in the quote Dundes includes. “The formulae of the Qur’an, because they come from God, have a power which is not identical with what we learn from them rationally by simply reading and reciting them. They are rather like a talisman which protects and guides man.” Of course reliance on talismans for protection and guidance is a widespread folk practice. Rigorous scholarship is something else again, and Dundes provides that with his exemplary rigor.
Danusha Goska is the author of God Through Binoculars: A Hitchhiker at a Monastery
Paul Kujawsky says
Excellent writing and scholarship!
Hanna says
Brilliant writing,definitively worth your time. And your friends’ time, too, so don’t hesitate to share it.
Again, I am asking you,FP, to make this part of your podcast. This NEEDS to be widely known so people who did not have the luck of having received a solid Christian education don’t get wooed by the simple apologetical trick applied by…interesting people such as the “Muslim Cowboy”.
BLSinSC says
I learn something from this site every day! I don’t think I had ever heard or read “eschatology” before and I read a LOT! I intend to use that in some posts referencing Biden and his ilk “I look forward to them as they are in their eschatological state”!!
The entire article is very enlightening and should be REQUIRED READING in the muslim communities as well as every college campus! I’m sure the outrages would be one sided though!
Alex Bensky says
Dr. Goska does it again. I imagine this will draw some opposing fire and it will be interesting to see if anyone doing so actually offers facts and analysis in rebuttal or just calls her names.
Dr. Nasr is not the only one who states that subjecting the Koran to the sort of rational and objective analysis that any number of scholars bring to the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament is anti-Muslim.
Siddi Nasrani says
I just realised that the Koran is a ” Brain Washing Book”
The opening lines of the Qur’an are known as Al-Fatihah, or The Opening. Muslims are required to repeat Al-Fatihah seventeen times a day. Al-Fatihah curses Christians as having gone astray, and Jews as earning Allah’s wrath.
In 10 years time you would have repeated that message 57,120 times !!! Having never met a Christian or Jew.
I only feel pity for “The Slaves of Allah”, brainwashed to feel contempt & loathing for the other.
Mark Dunn says
God doesn’t grade on a curve, in the afterlife, pointing a finger at the other guy, and telling God ‘I wasn’t as big a sinner as that other guy’ just won’t do.
THX 1138 says
One of the most wonderful and surprising things about the testimonies of those individuals who have been declared clinically dead, revived, and had a Near Death Experience is that the Being of Light that presents them with their life review does NOT judge them.
During their life review they became the person they harmed or helped, and they experienced the pain or the joy they caused in the other person first-hand as the other person experienced it. You judge your self with objectivity, unable to hide from the pain or joy you caused.
That makes much better sense than the religious idea of Eternal Hell. I can see Eternal Hell for those souls who are truly depraved and evil and refuse the joy and beauty of love and instead choose to stay depraved and evil. Individuals like Hitler or Ted Bundy. Most human beings and their common, ordinary, evils don’t rise or fall to that level.
“Men are passionate, men are weak, men are stupid, men are pitiful; to bring to bear on them anything so tremendous as the wrath of God seems strangely inept. It is not very difficult to forgive other people their sins. When you put yourself into their shoes it is generally easy to see what has caused them to do things they should not have done and excuses can be found for them. There is a natural instinct of anger when some harm is done one that leads one to revengeful action, and it is hard in what concerns oneself to take up an attitude of detachment; but a little reflection enables one to look upon the situation from the outside and with practice it is no more difficult to forgive the harm that is done one than any other.
It is much harder to forgive people the harm one has done them; that indeed requires a singular power of mind.” – Somerset Maugham
Intrepid says
“You judge yourself with your own “objectivity”, unable to hide from the pain or joy you have caused..
And of course you do, because you never think about the pain you might have caused by your unrelenting sniping and self-serving ego.
Somerset Maugham? Really??
Hannah says
I’m curious about why you believe the reports of those claiming to have experienced a Being of Light in NDEs, but you discount the reports of those claiming to have experienced direct GOD encounters in daily life.
THX 1138 says
I don’t think I’ve discounted “the reports of those claiming to have experienced direct GOD encounters in daily life.”
Can you give me one example where I have become that personal with someone here? I try my best not to make my comments personal.
It seems to me that Christians take it personally if someone simply states that they are an atheist. As if simply not being a believer is an insult to their God and to their own belief.
I don’t believe every single NDE testimony out there. Some are undoubtedly fake. But there are some that have veridical, corroborating, evidence. Knowledge and observations that could only have happened if the person had actually been out of body and observing what was going on.
In my opinion, from what I have discovered, Eben Alexander is one case of not only a fake NDE, but outright malicious fraud. The man has a history of fraud and his medical license was suspended because of fraud. He charges a lot of money for his services. It’s all too convenient when you can no longer practice medicine because of fraud.
Hannah says
[replying to THX’s answer to me – there was no ‘reply’ button on his]
Your dismissals aren’t personal, they are general – aimed at any Jews or Christians who claim direct encounters with GOD.
Example: You wrote off any possibility of “communications from the Supreme Mind to the human, whether in the form of revelations sent to select individuals or of ideas implanted”. and considered it an irrational artifact of “the Middle Ages” (comment under “Freud’s Last Session”)
Luz Maria Rodriguez says
It appears to be nothing more than a pre-civilizational expression of a noncognitive, nonrational mind, a salad of neanderthal cave thoughts.
Spirit of San Jacinto says
Thank you for this writing. My punk’n feels 3 pounds heavier from the things I’ve learned, and my heart just a little bit lighter. I hung on every word of this. Your mentor, Dr. Dundes, is surely proud of this work.
Alkflaeda says
Brilliant article, definitely bookmarked for future reference. I had a discussion with someone on another site, who claimed that some Aramaic Qur’ans have been found in the attic of a mosque in Yemen, and that Mohammed originally spoke Aramaic. Has anyone else come across this? The context was my statement that if Mohammed had been inspired by God, he would not have said “Allahu akbar” to Jewish people, because whereas in Arabic “Allahu akbar” means “Allah is greater” in Hebrew an akbar is a mouse (I think the other commenter was trying to argue that this was not what Mohammed said, but something that sounded like it in Aramaic).
Mark Dunn says
I saw a documentary, that made a pretty good case, that the first “holy city of islam” was Petra not Mecca. They changed it for political reasons.
Hannah says
Yes, apparently the Qibla in the early mosques point not toward Mecca but toward Petra.
SKA says
For those willing to take a deep dive into the critical scholarship demolishing the Quran and the historicity of Muhammad Jay Smith has posted excellent podcasts of several lectures on YouTube. Smith has also established an institute for training Christians in polemics when confronting Muslim propagandists.
Semaphore says
Ms. Goska, you are easily the most scholarly writer on FP, and I thoroughly enjoy your work. The only problem I have with your articles is that there aren’t enough of them! Thanks! And continued success to you.
THX 1138 says
The True Believer of any religion will believe no matter what, that’s the whole point of FAITH.
“Why’s it so hard to get rid of socialism? Consider the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
The Seventh-day Adventist Church formed out of the movement known today as the Millerites. In 1831, a Baptist convert, William Miller, was asked by a Baptist to preach in their church and began to preach that the Second Advent of Jesus would occur somewhere between March 1843 and March 1844, based on his interpretation of Daniel 8:14. A following gathered around Miller that included many from the Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian and Christian Connection churches. In the summer of 1844, some of Miller’s followers promoted the date of October 22. They linked the cleansing of the sanctuary of Daniel 8:14 with the Jewish Day of Atonement, believed to be October 22 that year. By 1844, over 100,000 people were anticipating what Miller had called the “Blessed Hope”. On October 22 many of the believers were up late into the night watching, waiting for Christ to return and found themselves bitterly disappointed when both sunset and midnight passed with their expectations unfulfilled. This event later became known as the Great Disappointment … After the disappointment of October 22 many of Miller’s followers were left upset and disillusioned. Most ceased to believe in the imminent return of Jesus. Some believed the date was incorrect. A few believed that the date was right but the event expected was wrong. This latter group developed into the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Notice the key here: “The Great Disappointment” followed by … a doubling down on faith…. Whenever you form a conclusion based entirely on faith, hope or anything other than the evidence of the senses giving rise to rationally defensible concepts, you will tend to find this phenomenon of disappointment followed by a doubling down on the prior, erroneous belief.” – Michael J. Hurd
“What Socialism and Seventh-day Adventists Have in Common”
Intrepid says
I guess your anti-Christian crusade ain’t workin’. So who do you pick on now? The l0w hanging fruit. The practically non-existent 7th Day-ers.
Of course you aren’t any kind of true believer are you. ARE YOU?
THX 1138 says
The problem is the True Believer of any religion will keep on believing by coming up with things like, “God works in mysterious ways”, “Reason is limited, man’s mind is limited in its understanding. Man cannot know God. God is the creator of man and therefore man’s mind is inferior to God, etc., etc., etc.
That’s not true Islam or true Christianity, that’s another one. The Dark Ages, the Inquisition, the Gulag, the Holodomor, were not caused by my religion but by hijackers and corrupters of my religion, that’s another one.
True socialism has never been tried.
If a True Believer tells you all this what are you going to do then?
Intrepid says
I’m fine with what they tell me because it’s not my business. I’m not out to save the world. You are.
For some reason you seem to think what people believe is your business. Pretty presumptuous.
True believers don’t care what you think. That’s why they are true believers.
By the way, I’ve never run into any Christian or Jew who spouts the gibberish you spout in this last post, As for muslims I don’t care what they think because I never engage with them. Obviously you do care. It’s a wonder you haven’t lost your head.
Stop trying to save us….Mr. Busy Body.
Raymond in DC says
“True socialism has never been tried.”
Yeah, that’s what leftists tell us when we point out how it’s always failed. “They did it wrong,” they insist. “This time we’ll get it right.” But this newest venture will fail too.
THX 1138 says
Perhaps the most catastrophic and evil rationalization the religious mind has come up with is “This life on earth doesn’t really matter anyway, this life on earth is just a brief but necessary pilgrimage through a veil of tears to atone for Original Sin and prepare for the life that really counts, the after-life.”
“What seems like pain and suffering to us isn’t really pain and suffering at all in God’s eyes.”
“Pain and suffering are good for the soul, they cleanse and prepare the eternal soul for the life of the world to come, it’s the price we must pay to gain entrance to Heaven or Paradise when we die.”
“When I was studying for my Masters in Theology, I took some Patristics courses… the early church and apostolic fathers. It was fascinating studying the martyrs like Polycarp, Ignatius and Justin Martyr because they wanted to be martyred. It was such an honor, such a sacrifice, such a guarantee of eternal reward, that they seemed to do anything in their power to get killed for their faith. They took as their examples Jesus who did not open his mouth to defend himself, thereby cementing his execution, as well as Paul who did everything in his power to stay in chains so that he could testify to the top dogs in Rome, which ended with his execution (legend has it)….
She [Mother Teresa] believed the world gained much from the suffering of the poor.
The suggestion is many people suffered and died that didn’t need to. To Mother Teresa, the fact that they were suffering was their highest achievement and this should not be interfered with….
It’s one thing to suffer well, it’s another thing to invite it and then keep it long after it wants to go. It’s one thing to sit with others in their suffering, it’s another thing to let it continue when you have the power to change things. Christianity can tend to lean in this unhealthy direction.” – David Hayward
“Mother Teresa And The Fatal Love Of Suffering” – David Hayward
Mo de Profit says
“ There is no Good Samaritan story informing Muslims that even non-Muslims are their neighbors and worthy of equal treatment.”
Which is probably why Rand doesn’t criticise the koran as much because it’s perfectly selfish.
THX 1138 says
Nowhere did I mention Ayn Rand or her moral code of rational selfishness in my comments, so why are you going there? But I’ll answer your attack on her and her moral code anyway.
What makes you think a Muslim murdering innocents is acting in his rational self-interest? He isn’t, murdering innocents is thoroughly irrational and sacrificial. For Objectivism your “self” is your thinking mind. The Muslim sacrifices his mind, his life, and the life of innocents to Allah. The Muslim does not live for his own self but sacrifices his self to Allah.
“There is a fundamental moral difference between a man who sees his self-interest in production and a man who sees it in robbery. The evil of a robber does not lie in the fact that he pursues his own interests, but in what he regards as to his own interest; not in the fact that he pursues his values, but in what he chose to value; not in the fact that he wants to live, but in the fact that he wants to live on a subhuman level (see “The Objectivist Ethics”).
If it is true that what I mean by “selfishness” is not what is meant conventionally, then this is one of the worst indictments of altruism: it means that altruism permits no concept of a self-respecting, self-supporting man—a man who supports his life by his own effort and neither sacrifices himself nor others. It means that altruism permits no view of men except as sacrificial animals and profiteers-on-sacrifice, as victims and parasites—that it permits no concept of a benevolent co-existence among men—that it permits no concept of justice.” – Ayn Rand
Mark Dunn says
My wife is interested in soul sleep. Apparently, last century, it was considered a problem. She, my wife, wants read a history of soul sleep, what is it exactly, and why is it a problem. Seems Seventh Day Adventist were somehow connected to soul sleep. Any guidance would be appreciated.
THX 1138 says
I’ve never heard of soul sleep. I know nothing about it. You can probably find out what it is by searching it on the internet.
Mark Dunn says
That’s she stuck with until she found the information she wanted. It was a issues a hundred years ago, but it sort of went away.
George says
The koran is truly the book of hate. It’s a curse on humanity.
Andrew Blackadder says
islamism is the new nazism of today.
Mark Dunn says
I know more plumbers, truck drivers and mechanics than scholars (I don’t know any) I wasn’t aware that categorizing folk tails is a scholarly pursuit. The textual critics could have a field day with the koran, if most of them weren’t busy hating the Bible.
Robert Guyton says
Thank you for this informative essay! I thought it was even more impactful with your dedication and sharing your personal experience with Dr. Dundes. There are people I wish were still around that I have worked with in the past. I miss their insight and wisdom. Even their mercurial moods.
One of the things, of many things I was unaware of before reading this essay, is the pathological resistance to the use of analysis tools that are used in virtually every other piece of literature. I was aware of some scholar-authors such as Rushdie, but I never stopped to consider how deep the problem was.
I was curious, so I took a quick look on the web to see what was being done. The research that seemed to be the most common was statistical analysis of the text in-situ, with the source material, the Quran being referred to as its own primary reference material. It not an exhaustive search, but I am limited in both time and expertise. But it does look like a lot of the research is essentially circular in nature.
The hatred for the unbelievers is hard to ignore. It is something I have heard of for years by Muslims. As if they were describing the weather. I think that the chronological vs a ‘disconnected anthology/poetry’ is a good description of the difference between the Bible and the Quran.
“The Iliad and The Odyssey were not the products of one man.” I am not a folk scholar, just a listener. I may have suspected that the Iliad and the Odyssey were not the product of one man at some point in my life, but identifying that point is now impossible. Another thing that struck me, as an amateur, was the superficial similarity of the Quran to the Book of Mormon, that is to say, the appearance of it being written by one man. There are disagreements about this, many in fact. I do think that the Book of Mormon is rather more coherent compared to the Quran, but that is my opinion.
In the end, the hatred of unbelievers and use of jihad make the Quran difficult to read. It is a much more intense negative experience than trying to read Dawkins ‘The Selfish Gene,’ trying to navigate his endless minefields of anti Christian rhetoric.
Buddy the Cat Meow says
I didn’t see this one before. Today is April 5th, 2024, regardless of the time and date stamp says.
Anyway, there seems to be a nature in at least some of humankind that seeks to revive the Dark Ages. It’s like a “This world aint big enough for the both of us so you gotta go” mentality.
Maybe everything published should have in its introduction, “This book/article/video/note/whatever is not meant to convey or authorize harm of any sort to anyone. And if you think it does, YOU ARE WRONG!”
Stay safe, stay sane, and stay blessed.