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		<title>By: jonb</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-43503</link>
		<dc:creator>jonb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Children are precious gifts from God, why wouldn’t you want your children to believe in something better than dirt when they die? Prayers for the children because they are the real victums of parents who are unbelievers"

Children are precious gifts from God only if you believe that God created them.  This is what you believe, however, others may not.  Simply believing there is something in the afterlife does not make it so.  Believing you have no immortal soul does not mean this is the reality either.  

Why pray for the children of non-believers?  How are they victims of their parent's lack of an affiliation with religion?  They are only victims if for a fact you can prove that God would damn them to eternity for not being Christian.  

For that matter, what of people living in isolation in the jungles of SOuth America or islands around the globe?  They know not of Christ or his alleged ascension, so how can they be held accountable for not having recieved the memo on God?  I find it hard to believe that one could lead a virtuous and selfless life only to be sent o Hell because you did so without a ritualized faith in God.  

Jesus taught that tolerance and compassion should be practiced in all things.  I consider it likely that God himself would probably practice what he preaches.

jonb's last entry was &lt;a href="http://jonb81.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-challenge-of-single-mom-dating/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Challenge of Single Mom Dating&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>Children are precious gifts from God only if you believe that God created them.  This is what you believe, however, others may not.  Simply believing there is something in the afterlife does not make it so.  Believing you have no immortal soul does not mean this is the reality either.  </p>
<p>Why pray for the children of non-believers?  How are they victims of their parent&#8217;s lack of an affiliation with religion?  They are only victims if for a fact you can prove that God would damn them to eternity for not being Christian.  </p>
<p>For that matter, what of people living in isolation in the jungles of SOuth America or islands around the globe?  They know not of Christ or his alleged ascension, so how can they be held accountable for not having recieved the memo on God?  I find it hard to believe that one could lead a virtuous and selfless life only to be sent o Hell because you did so without a ritualized faith in God.  </p>
<p>Jesus taught that tolerance and compassion should be practiced in all things.  I consider it likely that God himself would probably practice what he preaches.</p>
<p>jonb&#8217;s last entry was <a href="http://jonb81.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/the-challenge-of-single-mom-dating/" rel="nofollow">The Challenge of Single Mom Dating</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Kenney</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-19954</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across this site while doing a school project. I just have to say this; I am 19 years old and raised in a purely christian family. My Grandfather is a pastor and my Parents are missionaries. Your child will definitely have to choose a religion for his/herself, and I think that whatever religion they choose, you should accept that and embrace it. I have always mimicked my parents beliefs, but as I get older and am now on my own, I find myself making my own choices, even in big area's such as religion. I am still a christian, but instead of living my Parents beliefs, I am making them my own. Life is hard to understand, so just support your children as they grow :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this site while doing a school project. I just have to say this; I am 19 years old and raised in a purely christian family. My Grandfather is a pastor and my Parents are missionaries. Your child will definitely have to choose a religion for his/herself, and I think that whatever religion they choose, you should accept that and embrace it. I have always mimicked my parents beliefs, but as I get older and am now on my own, I find myself making my own choices, even in big area&#8217;s such as religion. I am still a christian, but instead of living my Parents beliefs, I am making them my own. Life is hard to understand, so just support your children as they grow <img src='http://thesocalledme.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JHS</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-16583</link>
		<dc:creator>JHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 04:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for participating in this week's Carnival of Family Life hosted at &lt;a href="http://www.pjmommy.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pajama Mommy Community&lt;/a&gt;!  Be sure to drop by and check out some of the other wonderful entries this week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for participating in this week&#8217;s Carnival of Family Life hosted at <a href="http://www.pjmommy.com/" rel="nofollow">Pajama Mommy Community</a>!  Be sure to drop by and check out some of the other wonderful entries this week!</p>
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		<title>By: Ask Andrea » Happy Birthday Dad Edition of the Carnival of Christian Advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ask Andrea » Happy Birthday Dad Edition of the Carnival of Christian Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Weekend Kindness &#187; Godly Family - December 7, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Kindness &#187; Godly Family - December 7, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christian Coach Carnival - December 9, 2007 &#171; Christian Coaching ConneXion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Coach Carnival - December 9, 2007 &#171; Christian Coaching ConneXion</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Prup (aka Jim Benton)</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-9524</link>
		<dc:creator>Prup (aka Jim Benton)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, childless at 61 by choice, and likely to remain so, this is an academic question, but I'd like to answer it because there are some important points as yet uncovered.

The most important one is the question of 'critical thinking,' the necessity of checking claims against the evidence and not accepting them simply because 'someone said them' -- even if the someone is Daddy.  I consider this the most important skill someone can have, and would teach it to my children.  If, with this, they still felt that a particular religion 'held up,' then, since it is their life, and since they are individuals, not 'mini-me's' it would be their choice.

I'd argue with them, and explain my own position, of course.  But another thing I would hope to pass on from my parents -- who were Catholics -- to them is that it is okay to disagree with Daddy.  (Many parents are willing to engage in arguments with their children -- as long as, in the end, the parents win the arguments.  My parents weren't like that, and many a time I'd leave the room shaking my head at their arguments which I could not accept, and we'd 'agree to disagree.'  That they could accept this is just one reason why I consider myself luckier than anyone I know in having the parents I did.)

A second point.  While I consider religion totally without any truth, I consider it both fascinating -- in all its many varieties -- and important to know about, since it is and has been an important factor in people's lives and in History -- both for good and for bad.  I would want them to understand what people believe, and why, and would encourage them to read as much as possible in the field if they were interested.  I certainly would suggest, as soon as they could get on the net, that they make the Internet sacred-text archive one of their favorites, and would provide them with books on any particular religion they showed interest in -- and books that presented the religion in the same light with which believers saw it.  (I'd also explain my own reasons for disbelieving in it, of course.)

Finally, I would hope they would grow up in a neighborhood similar to the one I currently live in in Brooklyn, where one religion might predominate -- in mine it is Jewish, and predominantly Orthodox within the Judaism -- but which would be highly mixed so they would, daily, come in contact with people of all faiths and none -- and people of all backgrounds.  (We have a substantial Muslim population, some Christians, and others whose faith I do not know.  We have Asians -- both South and East -- blacks, Hispanics, whatever you want, we got at least one of 'em.)

But this is all academic.  I do not consider myself parental material, and neither my wife nor I have ever wanted children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, childless at 61 by choice, and likely to remain so, this is an academic question, but I&#8217;d like to answer it because there are some important points as yet uncovered.</p>
<p>The most important one is the question of &#8216;critical thinking,&#8217; the necessity of checking claims against the evidence and not accepting them simply because &#8217;someone said them&#8217; &#8212; even if the someone is Daddy.  I consider this the most important skill someone can have, and would teach it to my children.  If, with this, they still felt that a particular religion &#8216;held up,&#8217; then, since it is their life, and since they are individuals, not &#8216;mini-me&#8217;s&#8217; it would be their choice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue with them, and explain my own position, of course.  But another thing I would hope to pass on from my parents &#8212; who were Catholics &#8212; to them is that it is okay to disagree with Daddy.  (Many parents are willing to engage in arguments with their children &#8212; as long as, in the end, the parents win the arguments.  My parents weren&#8217;t like that, and many a time I&#8217;d leave the room shaking my head at their arguments which I could not accept, and we&#8217;d &#8216;agree to disagree.&#8217;  That they could accept this is just one reason why I consider myself luckier than anyone I know in having the parents I did.)</p>
<p>A second point.  While I consider religion totally without any truth, I consider it both fascinating &#8212; in all its many varieties &#8212; and important to know about, since it is and has been an important factor in people&#8217;s lives and in History &#8212; both for good and for bad.  I would want them to understand what people believe, and why, and would encourage them to read as much as possible in the field if they were interested.  I certainly would suggest, as soon as they could get on the net, that they make the Internet sacred-text archive one of their favorites, and would provide them with books on any particular religion they showed interest in &#8212; and books that presented the religion in the same light with which believers saw it.  (I&#8217;d also explain my own reasons for disbelieving in it, of course.)</p>
<p>Finally, I would hope they would grow up in a neighborhood similar to the one I currently live in in Brooklyn, where one religion might predominate &#8212; in mine it is Jewish, and predominantly Orthodox within the Judaism &#8212; but which would be highly mixed so they would, daily, come in contact with people of all faiths and none &#8212; and people of all backgrounds.  (We have a substantial Muslim population, some Christians, and others whose faith I do not know.  We have Asians &#8212; both South and East &#8212; blacks, Hispanics, whatever you want, we got at least one of &#8216;em.)</p>
<p>But this is all academic.  I do not consider myself parental material, and neither my wife nor I have ever wanted children.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-7323</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can you lose if you don't believe? Everything. What can you gain if you believe in God? Everything!!

Children are precious gifts from God, why wouldn't you want your children to believe in something better than dirt when they die? Prayers for the children because they are the real victums of parents who are unbelievers .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can you lose if you don&#8217;t believe? Everything. What can you gain if you believe in God? Everything!!</p>
<p>Children are precious gifts from God, why wouldn&#8217;t you want your children to believe in something better than dirt when they die? Prayers for the children because they are the real victums of parents who are unbelievers &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Judi</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-7111</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised one way, but if you look at my family and all the different routes that were taken it would amaze you. I am different from all my brothers and sister. And am hopefully raising my kids to make their own decision. Because it is a very personal decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised one way, but if you look at my family and all the different routes that were taken it would amaze you. I am different from all my brothers and sister. And am hopefully raising my kids to make their own decision. Because it is a very personal decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen</title>
		<link>http://thesocalledme.net/archives/religion/#comment-6785</link>
		<dc:creator>Gretchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with JustMe.  I grew up in one of those households...mom a lapsed Episcopal and dad a sometime Christian Scientist.   There was no religious observance or instruction beyond Christmas trees and one summer foray to the CS church. I was one of those kids who had a potent sense of God's presence, but had no clue Who or What he was.  To me, it was a wound. Spent many, many years searching.  I guess the thing that I would say to an atheist or agnostic parent is to expose your child to the ideas of the great religions.  Let them know why there are transcendent works of art hanging in the world's museums, and why Europe is full of sublime architecture.  Educate them about the little tribe of wanderers who heard a Voice in the desert.  Share with them the ideas of Confucious and Buddha.  Love them enough to give them a foundation upon which to choose.  Try not to allow yourself to be too negative toward religion...I've noticed that some atheists/agnostics tend to focus only on the wrongs done in the name of religion, and ignore the great good.  And for goodness' sake, be honest about the failings of atheistic systems (communism, for one).  People are hard-wired to believe--over 90 percent of the world's population believes in a Deity(s).  So, to deny that inborn yearning (whether or not it is genetic or spiritual) is to deny your child an intrinsic aspect of being human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with JustMe.  I grew up in one of those households&#8230;mom a lapsed Episcopal and dad a sometime Christian Scientist.   There was no religious observance or instruction beyond Christmas trees and one summer foray to the CS church. I was one of those kids who had a potent sense of God&#8217;s presence, but had no clue Who or What he was.  To me, it was a wound. Spent many, many years searching.  I guess the thing that I would say to an atheist or agnostic parent is to expose your child to the ideas of the great religions.  Let them know why there are transcendent works of art hanging in the world&#8217;s museums, and why Europe is full of sublime architecture.  Educate them about the little tribe of wanderers who heard a Voice in the desert.  Share with them the ideas of Confucious and Buddha.  Love them enough to give them a foundation upon which to choose.  Try not to allow yourself to be too negative toward religion&#8230;I&#8217;ve noticed that some atheists/agnostics tend to focus only on the wrongs done in the name of religion, and ignore the great good.  And for goodness&#8217; sake, be honest about the failings of atheistic systems (communism, for one).  People are hard-wired to believe&#8211;over 90 percent of the world&#8217;s population believes in a Deity(s).  So, to deny that inborn yearning (whether or not it is genetic or spiritual) is to deny your child an intrinsic aspect of being human.</p>
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